To The New World Order Cha Cha
[Above right, Schuller's good friend Norman Vincent Peale is
pictured on the May, 1992 Scottish Rite magazine.]
[Tape recording of Schuller advocating Freemasonry]
"Later, in California, he (Gorbachev) shared a stage with
William Shatner, before beaming his 'global ethic'
sermonette to a global television audience from the Reverend
Robert Schuler's famous Crystal Cathedral. 'I know that he
calls himself an atheist,' Rev. Schuller said, but Schuller
believed, nonetheless, that God had used Gorbachev 'in a
mighty way.' And he hoped that one day the former Communist
dictator would become 'a man of faith.' Jasper, "The United
Nations Exposed, page 253
[above photo from the Power of Prophecy Newsletter, 12/2004]
ROBERT SCHULLER 33RD DEGREE FREEMASON
Robert Schuller, good friends with many 33rd Degree
Freemasons such as Billy Graham, Norman Vincent Peale, John
Wayne, W.Clement Stone and also Rich DeVos, the founder and
chairman of Amway Corporation. He also names John Wimber of
the Vineyard-Toronto churches as one of.the top ten
ministers on the planet. Schuller was helped into ministry
by Masonic brother Billy Graham.
Robert Schuller 33rd Degree Freemason involved with the
by Fritz Springmeier
There are a number of important "powerful" (in their own
eyes) Christian clergymen, who are Freemasons. These men
collaborate with each other. Once one of them is established
in a famous ministry they use their established ministry to
birth (to launch) someone else into prominence. This is an
overview on Robert Schuller and his ties to this group.
I originally concluded that Robert Schuller was a Freemason
based on: a.Testimony/claims of individuals b.How he worked
within this pack of Masonic clergymen c.The fact that
certain photographs showed him doing Masonic handshakes with
other Masons. I used to have one. I suggest that a person
examine past photos of him with the "right" people, and you
may well also find a Masonic handshake. I concluded he is a
This was a conclusion I came to in 1991. It seems that years
later, I saw a Masonic reference to his membership, but
since I had already concluded he was a Mason, I didn't take
the effort to keep track of this reference. I also felt that
his own anti-Biblical teachings (which are openly taught)
should scare Christians away from the man.
Although it is significant that he is a Freemason, what is
more significant is that he promotes Masonic doctrine. (I
said the same about Charles T. Russell, but the response
back to me by individuals was that I was wrong, they
contended that the membership is more important than what
the man does. How people can think this way boggles my mind.
I am much more concerned with what a man does, rather than
the labels he puts on himself.)
In material that is authorized by Robert Schuller I's
ministry, it is stated that Norman Vincent Peale was his
mentor and "close friend". For documentation on this see
Nason, Michael and Donna Nason. Robert Schuller: The Inside
Story (Waco: Word Books, 1983, p. 61) Schuller often praised
Norman Vincent Peale, for instance, in his Hour of Prophecy
Show of April 2, '89, which had a clip of Peale. Less than a
month after Peale died, Schuller did a show on Jan. 16, '94,
where Schuller talked with tears about how Peale had been
his mentor and his inspiration. Peale was more than that.
Peale helped his ministry over the years.
Who was Norman Vincent Peale? I have the Scottish Rite
Magazine that shows Peale's picture in the Scottish Rite's
House of the Temple in the Scottish Rite's Hall of Honor.
Norman Vincent Peale's 33 degree membership was not kept
secret. He was also a Shriner (Imperial Grand Chaplain of
the Shrine). Billy Graham's Christianity Today gave Peale
positive publicity. In Billy Graham's New York Crusade the
larger number of people who came forward (373) were sent to
Peale's Marble Collegiate Church. The second largest group
of new converts (135) were sent to the Rockefeller's
Riverside Church, whose pastor was an infidel. Peale's
gospel was the gospel of Positive Thinking, and he taught
visualization and other techniques that are important for
people to function under the Illuminati's trauma-based total
mind-control programming. In other words, he was enhancing
their mind-control of their victims in the general
population. Peale promoted a number of different religions
and methods from other religions such as TM and witchcraft,
and he consistently criticized traditional Christianity.
Peale was very close to the Unity School in Kansas City, and
so was Schuller. I knew a man who had taught at the Unity
School before he became a Christian. He told me that he had
personally witnessed Robert Schuller perform a Luciferian
initiation ceremony at the Unity School, and that Robert
Schuller knew what he was doing. I also happened to bump
into two men in Kansas one day (this was in the '80's,
before I was exposing all this stuff) and as we talked they
wanted to talk about something very frightening that they
had experienced. They had bumped into Satanic Rituals going
on at night near the Unity School, and were chased by these
Satanists and barely escaped. Norman Vincent Peale was also
part of the Pilgrim Society (which is an Illuminati front)
reserved for higher up Illuminati members. Peale and Billy
Graham are close friends.
Armand Hammer (whose father Julius named his first name
after the Communists arm and hammer symbol) was Jewish and
the top man for the Communists under Lenin and Stalin in the
United States. I spent several days as the guest of a woman
who had been programmed with Illuminati mind-control to be a
sexual slave for Armand Hammer. This convinced me that it
was no accident that Armand Hammer was great friends of the
European Rothschilds, and many other prominent Illuminati
members. It clearly showed me what seemed obvious anyway,
the man was Illuminati. It helps explain why J. Edgar
Hoover, Richard Nixon, and many other supposedly
anti-Communists were friendly with Hammer. William Casey
(once head of the CIA) while he was head of the
Export-Import Bank was in favor of Hammer activities in
Russia, and in 1974 loaned Russia $216 million dollars on
unprofitable ventures that Hammer wanted to carry out in
Russia. In 1966, when the Arabs found out that Hammer was
Jewish, he nominally joined a Unitarian church so that he
could claim he wasn't Jewish. This man, Armand Hammer, was
the man who got Robert Schuller into Russia and regularly
onto Russian T.V.
Robert Schuller taught a Masonic gospel. Schuller told
Moslems that if he, Schuller, came back in 100 years and
found his descendants to be Moslems it wouldn't bother him.
The Record (Spring, 1997) reports that 80 homosexual pastors
and lay leaders from the Metropolitan Community Churches
participated in Schuller's 1997 Robert Schuller Institute
for Successful Church Leadership.
[Above, Billy Graham shares Masonic hand shake with fellow
33rd Degree Freemason Harry S. Truman (Power of Prophecy, by
Texe Marrs, his Newsletter, December 2004)]
Masons within the Masonic lodges know that Kenneth Copeland,
Billy Graham and others are Freemasons. They have been
reported saying so to other Masons, and to Christians. For
instance, some friends of mine went to a Masonic open house
where they were trying to impress new comers (probably
hoping for new recruits) and one of the Masons boasted that
Billy Graham was a Freemason. My friends were very impressed
because it confirmed what they had read in my material.
Prominent Masonic Clergymen who hide their Masonic
membership would include: Kenneth Copeland, Billy Graham,
and Oral Roberts.
Kenneth Copeland has shaken hands with Masons with Masonic
handshakes, and placed the Masonic Square &Compass on his
tapes and books. His daughter has her picture on the cover
of "Shout" (Copeland's magazine for kids) wearing an upside
down star, which represents both Baphomet (Lucifer/Satan)
and the Masonic Women's Eastern Star. Kenneth Copeland
started his ministry under Oral Roberts. Oral Roberts was,
in turn, started out by Billy Graham. (Oral Roberts admits
that Graham got him started in one of his books, Miracle of
Seed Faith, p. 9). I have spent time with victims of
Illuminati mind-control who were Satanic Ritual Abuse
victims in ceremonies led by Oral Roberts. I would say about
half a dozen people who could give personal details of how
Oral Roberts is a Satanist have talked (confided) with me.
They also would talk about his Masonic membership. There is
a large number of hurting people who are SRA and DID. These
people live in different parts of the country, and have
never seen each other, but have personal accounts that
collaborate each other.
Where these 3 Masonic Clergymen expose themselves is what
they have said that is heretical, what they have said that
is obviously mind-control triggers for Illuminati
mind-control, and the infidels and heretics that they
embrace who are best of friends with them. The financing for
these men shows that men like Armand Hammer, William
Randolph Hearst, the Rockefellers and numerous others of
similar ilk are willing to support them with large
donations/and or help. Part of the proof of who Robert
Schuller, Billy Graham, and Oral Roberts is seen when one
assembles the pieces of the puzzle as to what they are
doing. An accumulation of evidence then piles up that is so
vast, that it is clear that these men are dirty. Robert
Schuller is on the public record as denying all the beliefs
of Christianity. He is only a "Christian" if one redefines
Christian to be just the opposite of what it used to mean.
For anyone who wants to comprehend that Schuller does not
teach Christian doctrine, I suggest they simply compare his
teachings to the Bible. Billy Graham, Oral Roberts, and
Kenneth Copeland are usually more subtle, (but not always).
Billy Graham openly said we should embrace the New World
Order. Copeland openly said that the Romans had anal sex
with Christ. Roberts openly said his fantastic vision, that
brought him so much ridicule. The man who "saved" Roberts
was not a Christian. The man who Graham says initially told
him to become a Christian minister was the head of the
Jesuits, Malachi Martin, who I know to be an Illuminati
mind-control programmer. There are plenty of off color
things about these men, if one has the clear thinking to see
the blatant off color facts. But most people think that the
world's establishment news will tell them the truth. When
Billy Graham is rated the most popular respected man in
America for several years, the herd instinct of the sheeple
is to idolize the man. Then when this idol of a man tells us
Oral Roberts is a great man of God, the sheeple swallow that
one too. It all works together, and all these men work
I do not think most Christians can think clearly and with
critical thinking. I say this because Billy Graham has
openly supported Norman Vincent Peale and Robert Schuller.
Both of these men preach a gospel of positive thinking, and
openly defy the doctrines of the Bible. All three of these
men preach ecumenicalism and participate in Ecumenical
meetings and ecumenical groups. They are also in favor of a
One-World-Religion, which does not teach Christ as the only
way of salvation. Because I am centering on Robert Schuller,
this article will not go into the fullness of what these
other men have done. In light of what I know these men are
doing, their reported 33 degree memberships in the Scottish
Rite of Freemasonry seem trivial. Peale, Schuller, and
Roberts are Illuminati. Graham is used by the Illuminati,
and has participated in Luciferian rituals. It is hard to
conceive that they would use him so much, (and he knows they
use him by the way), if he were not also a member. Since
there is a small possibility he is primarily just
blackmailed, without being a member, I might entertain a
small doubt about whether he is actually a member. Copeland
participates in the Illuminati's mind-control over people,
and is also I suspect one of their members. These men don't
want to taint their Madison avenue images by revealing their
Scottish Rite memberships, but they have much darker secrets
than their Scottish Rite memberships.
The Double Headed Eagle of the Scottish Rite, 33rd Degree Of
(Above) Here we have the symbol for the 33rd Degree of
Freemasonry see Scottish Rite link
The picture above, being a statue of the 33rd Degree of
Freemasonry's Double Headed Eagle, was actually released by
Robert Schuller's own ministry. It was sent to people who
pledged $600 or more to his program 'Churches Uniting in
Global Mission' and was shown in the Hour of Power News
Extra edition. It claimed this program included churches of
all denominations and referred to the program as "this
networking". I would appreciate getting my hands on a better
image of this eagle and also Masonic handshake pictures of
Illuminati. Please email to firstname.lastname@example.org with
more information. This is the way Masons communicate to
others about their membership through symbols and I believe
this is what Schuller is doing.
QUOTATIONS BY ROBERT SCHULLER
Compiled by Jim Fox 07-13-92
Note: This file is still being worked on, the Biblical
refutations to Robert Schuller's statements are still in the
process of being worked on. I would urge any of you who read
this file in this preliminary stage to search the Scriptures
as the Bereans in Acts 17:11 did.
1. Explains Philippians 2:7,8
"Jesus knew his worth, his success fed his self-esteem....
He suffered the cross to sanctify his self-esteem. And he
bore the cross to sanctify your self-esteem. And the cross
will sanctify the ego trip!" (Living Positively One Day at a
2. "A person is in hell when he has lost his self-esteem."
(Self-Esteem, The New Reformation, pp.14-15)
3. Obviously he does not accept 1 Timothy 1:15, Luke 5:32
"I don't think anything has been done in the name of Christ
that and under the banner of Christianity that has proven
more destructive to human personality and, hence,
counterproductive to the evangelism
enterprise than the often crude, uncouth, and unchristian
strategy of attempting to make people aware of their lost
and sinful condition."
(Time, March 18, 1985)
4. "I discovered the reality of that dynamic dimension in
prayer that comes through visualizing..... Don't try to
understand it. Just start to enjoy it! It's true. It works.
I tried it." (The Fourth Dimension, Foreword)
5. "Now-Believe and You Will Achieve" (Tough Times Never
Last, But Tough People DO, p. 161)
6. "You don't know what power you have within you!... You
make the world into anything you choose. Yes, you can make
your world into whatever you want it to be." (Possibility
Thinking: Goals, Amway Corporation
7. "A variety of approaches to meditation...is employed by
many different religions as well as by various non-religious
mind- control systems. In all forms... TM, Zen Buddhism, or
Yoga or... mediation... of
Judaeo-Christian tradition... the meditator endeavors to
overcome the distractions of the conscious mind...."
"It is important to remember that meditation in any form is
the harnessing, by human means, of God's divine laws.... We
are endowed with a great many powers and forces that we do
not yet fully
"The most effective mantras employ the "M" sound. You can
get the feel of it by repeating the words, "I am, I am,"
many times over....
Transendental Meditation or TM... is not a religion nor is
it necessarily anti-Christian." (Peace of Mind Through
Thinking, pp. 131-32)
8. Robert Schuller was addressing a group of Unity ministers
and ministers in training, at the Unity School of
Christianity (a Mind-science cult).
Schuller was asked, "Dr. Schuller, we hear a lot of talk
these days about the New Age, the Age of Aquarius, the type
of New Age thinking that we are involved in with Holistic
healing and various other things that are part of what is
called the New Age. Will you describe the role of what you
might consider the New Age minister in the '80s and beyond?"
Schuller replied, "Well, I think it depends upon where
you're working. I believe that the responsibility in this
Age is to "positivize"
religion. Now this probably doesn't have much bearing to you
people, being Unity people, you're positive. But I talk a
great deal to groups that are not positive... even to what
we would call Fundamentalists who deal constantly with words
like sin, salvation, repentance, guilt, that sort of thing."
"So when I'm dealing with these people... what we have to do
is positivize the words that have classically only had a
interpretation." (from an address at Unity Village, Unity
tape) 9. Schuller declares that this new reformation
requires that a new interpretation of the cross is needed.
"The classical interpretation of this teaching of Christ on
'bearing our cross' desperately needs reformation...."
"The cross Christ calls us to bear will be offered as a
dream... an inspiring idea that would incarnate itself in a
form of ministry that helps the self-esteem-impoverished
persons to discover their self-worth through salvation and
subsequent social service in our Savior's name..."
"So the proclamation of possibility thinking is the positive
proclamation of the cross!..."
"Christ was the world's greatest possibility thinker. Do we
dare follow him?" (Self-Esteem, pp. 22, 117-19)
10. "If the gospel of Jesus Christ can be proclaimed as a
theology of self-esteem, imagine the health this could
generate in society!"
(Self-Esteem, p. 47)
11. "Are we aware that theology has failed to accommodate
and apply proven insights in human behavior as revealed by
twentieth- century psychologists?" (Self-Esteem, p. 27)
12. "Self-love is a crowning sense of self-worth. It is an
ennobling emotion of self-respect... an abiding faith in
yourself. It is sincere belief in yourself."
"It comes through self-discovery, self-discipline, self-
forgiveness and self-acceptance. It produces self-reliance,
self- confidence and an inner security, calm as the night."
(Self-Love, The Dynamic Force of Success, p. 32)
13. Schuller describes a basic defect in modern
Christianity. "What is that basic flaw? I believe is it the
failure to proclaim the gospel in a way that can satisfy
every person's deepest need - one's spiritual hunger for
glory. Rather than glorify God's highest creation - the
human being - Christian liturgies,, hymns, prayers, and
scriptural interpretations have often insensitively and
destructively offended the dignity of the person..."
(Self-Esteem, p. 31)
14. "Where the sixteenth-century Reformation returned our
focus to sacred Scriptures as the only infallible rule for
faith and practice, the new reformation will return our
focus to the sacred right of every person to self-esteem!"
(Self-Esteem, p. 38)
15. "Real self-esteem is real humility. Healthy pride and
honest humility are the same human qualities - just
different sides of the same coin. We all welcome affirmation
and resent being insulted." (Self-Esteem, p. 174)
16. Schuller has decided that pride is this great thing that
we all need to strive for. However God lead Israel through
the wilderness in order to humble them and break them of
their pride (Deut 8:2).
"A neurotic fear of pride has motivated the church too
long.... In my lecture to thousands of ordained clergy of
the widest cross section of historic Christianity, I have
found it necessary to tell my
"Dare to be a possibility thinker! Do not fear pride; the
easiest job God has is to humble us. God's almost impossible
task is to keep us believing every hour of the day how great
we are as his sons and daughters on planet earth."
"Don't worry about humility. The easiest job God has to do
is to keep you an me humble. God's biggest job is to get us
to believe that we are somebody and that we really can do
"Remember, 'If your pride is rooted in your divine call,
your humility is assured. The Cross will sanctify your ego
trip.'... For the Cross protected our Lord's perfect
self-esteem from turning into sinful
pride." (Self-Esteem, p. 57, 74)
17. "Are we to believe that self-denial means the denial of
personal pleasure, desire, fulfillment, prosperity? For too
leaders have suggested this with tragic results...."
"Such attitudes are dangerous distortions and destructive
mis- interpretations of scattered Bible verses grossly
negative-thinking Bible readers who project their own
negative self-image onto the pages of Holy Scripture...."
"By self-denial Christ does not mean the rejection of that
positive emotion we call self-esteem - the joy of
experiencing my self-worth...." (Self-Esteem, p.113-15)
18. Since self-esteem is of all importance with Schuller, he
tries to draw the conclusion that an object is worth what
the price with which it was bought, in our case since Christ
died for us on the cross, we now are of infinite value.
"I must be of infinite value in God's sight" (Self-Esteem,
"In his crucifixion, Christ has placed unlimited value on
the human soul." (Self-Esteem, p. 102)
19. We now have a new definition of the atonement!
"If the deepest curse of sin is what it does to our
self-esteem, then the atoning power of the Cross is what it
does to redeem our discarded self-worth." (Self-Esteem, p.
20. "I may not deserve it [salvation] but I am worth it so
don't say that I am unworthy." (Self-Esteem, p. 74)
21. No one is an unworthy sinner according to Schuller, see
Luke 15:21 and Romans 3:23 to see if this is true.
"The most serious sin is the one that causes me to say, 'I
am unworthy. I may have no claim to divine sonship if you
examine me at my worst.'"
"For once a person believes he is an 'unworthy sinner,' it
is doubtful if he can really honestly accept the saving
grace God offers in Jesus Christ." (Self-Esteem, p. 98)
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Another famous Masonic preacher is Jesse Jackson, according
to a Masonic web site I visited.
[According to Texe Marrs, of Power of Prophecy Ministy, Pat
Robertson, who wrote a 1991 New York Times best seller that
warned of the New World Order, remains loyal to his father's