"Later, in California, he (Gorbachev) shared a stage with William Shatner, before beaming his 'global ethic' sermonette to a global television audience from the Reverend Robert Schuler's famous Crystal Cathedral. 'I know that he calls himself an atheist,' Rev. Schuller said, but Schuller believed, nonetheless, that God had used Gorbachev 'in a mighty way.' And he hoped that one day the former Communist dictator would become 'a man of faith.' Jasper, "The United Nations Exposed, page 253

ROBERT SCHULLER 33RD DEGREE FREEMASON?

Some of the most popular Protestant and Catholic teachers are said to be Freemasons.

"Robert Schuller, good friends with many 33rd Degree Freemasons such as Billy Graham, Norman Vincent Peale, John Wayne, W.Clement Stone and also Rich DeVos, the founder and chairman of Amway Corporation. He also names John Wimber of the Vineyard-Toronto churches as one of.the top ten ministers on the planet. Schuller was helped into ministry by Masonic brother Graham."

Robert Schuller 33rd Degree Freemason involved with the Illuminati

by Fritz Springmeier

There are a number of important "powerful" (in their own eyes) Christian clergymen, who are Freemasons. These men collaborate with each other. Once one of them is established in a famous ministry they use their established ministry to birth (to launch) someone else into prominence. This is an overview on Robert Schuller and his ties to this group.

I originally concluded that Robert Schuller was a Freemason based on: a.Testimony/claims of individuals b.How he worked within this pack of Masonic clergymen c.The fact that certain photographs showed him doing Masonic handshakes with other Masons. I used to have one. I suggest that a person examine past photos of him with the "right" people, and you may well also find a Masonic handshake. I concluded he is a Freemason.

This was a conclusion I came to in 1991. It seems that years later, I saw a Masonic reference to his membership, but since I had already concluded he was a Mason, I didn't take the effort to keep track of this reference. I also felt that his own anti-Biblical teachings (which are openly taught) should scare Christians away from the man.

Although it is significant that he is a Freemason, what is more significant is that he promotes Masonic doctrine. (I said the same about Charles T. Russell, but the response back to me by individuals was that I was wrong, they contended that the membership is more important than what the man does. How people can think this way boggles my mind. I am much more concerned with what a man does, rather than the labels he puts on himself.)

In material that is authorized by Robert Schuller I's ministry, it is stated that Norman Vincent Peale was his mentor and "close friend". For documentation on this see Nason, Michael and Donna Nason. Robert Schuller: The Inside Story (Waco: Word Books, 1983, p. 61) Schuller often praised Norman Vincent Peale, for instance, in his Hour of Prophecy Show of April 2, '89, which had a clip of Peale. Less than a month after Peale died, Schuller did a show on Jan. 16, '94, where Schuller talked with tears about how Peale had been his mentor and his inspiration. Peale was more than that. Peale helped his ministry over the years.

Who was Norman Vincent Peale? I have the Scottish Rite Magazine that shows Peale's picture in the Scottish Rite's House of the Temple in the Scottish Rite's Hall of Honor. Norman Vincent Peale's 33 degree membership was not kept secret. He was also a Shriner (Imperial Grand Chaplain of the Shrine). Billy Graham's Christianity Today gave Peale positive publicity. In Billy Graham's New York Crusade the larger number of people who came forward (373) were sent to Peale's Marble Collegiate Church. The second largest group of new converts (135) were sent to the Rockefeller's Riverside Church, whose pastor was an infidel. Peale's gospel was the gospel of Positive Thinking, and he taught visualization and other techniques that are important for people to function under the Illuminati's trauma-based total mind-control programming. In other words, he was enhancing their mind-control of their victims in the general population. Peale promoted a number of different religions and methods from other religions such as TM and witchcraft, and he consistently criticized traditional Christianity. Peale was very close to the Unity School in Kansas City, and so was Schuller. I knew a man who had taught at the Unity School before he became a Christian. He told me that he had personally witnessed Robert Schuller perform a Luciferian initiation ceremony at the Unity School, and that Robert Schuller knew what he was doing. I also happened to bump into two men in Kansas one day (this was in the '80's, before I was exposing all this stuff) and as we talked they wanted to talk about something very frightening that they had experienced. They had bumped into Satanic Rituals going on at night near the Unity School, and were chased by these Satanists and barely escaped. Norman Vincent Peale was also part of the Pilgrim Society (which is an Illuminati front) reserved for higher up Illuminati members. Peale and Billy Graham are close friends.

Armand Hammer (whose father Julius named his first name after the Communists arm and hammer symbol) was Jewish and the top man for the Communists under Lenin and Stalin in the United States. I spent several days as the guest of a woman who had been programmed with Illuminati mind-control to be a sexual slave for Armand Hammer. This convinced me that it was no accident that Armand Hammer was great friends of the European Rothschilds, and many other prominent Illuminati members. It clearly showed me what seemed obvious anyway, the man was Illuminati. It helps explain why J. Edgar Hoover, Richard Nixon, and many other supposedly anti-Communists were friendly with Hammer. William Casey (once head of the CIA) while he was head of the Export-Import Bank was in favor of Hammer activities in Russia, and in 1974 loaned Russia $216 million dollars on unprofitable ventures that Hammer wanted to carry out in Russia. In 1966, when the Arabs found out that Hammer was Jewish, he nominally joined a Unitarian church so that he could claim he wasn't Jewish. This man, Armand Hammer, was the man who got Robert Schuller into Russia and regularly onto Russian T.V.

Robert Schuller taught a Masonic gospel. Schuller told Moslems that if he, Schuller, came back in 100 years and found his descendants to be Moslems it wouldn't bother him. The Record (Spring, 1997) reports that 80 homosexual pastors and lay leaders from the Metropolitan Community Churches participated in Schuller's 1997 Robert Schuller Institute for Successful Church Leadership.

Masons within the Masonic lodges know that Kenneth Copeland, Billy Graham and others are Freemasons. They have been reported saying so to other Masons, and to Christians. For instance, some friends of mine went to a Masonic open house where they were trying to impress new comers (probably hoping for new recruits) and one of the Masons boasted that Billy Graham was a Freemason. My friends were very impressed because it confirmed what they had read in my material.

Prominent Masonic Clergymen who hide their Masonic membership would include: Kenneth Copeland, Billy Graham, and Oral Roberts.

Kenneth Copeland has shaken hands with Masons with Masonic handshakes, and placed the Masonic Square &Compass on his tapes and books. His daughter has her picture on the cover of "Shout" (Copeland's magazine for kids) wearing an upside down star, which represents both Baphomet (Lucifer/Satan) and the Masonic Women's Eastern Star. Kenneth Copeland started his ministry under Oral Roberts. Oral Roberts was, in turn, started out by Billy Graham. (Oral Roberts admits that Graham got him started in one of his books, Miracle of Seed Faith, p. 9). I have spent time with victims of Illuminati mind-control who were Satanic Ritual Abuse victims in ceremonies led by Oral Roberts. I would say about half a dozen people who could give personal details of how Oral Roberts is a Satanist have talked (confided) with me. They also would talk about his Masonic membership. There is a large number of hurting people who are SRA and DID. These people live in different parts of the country, and have never seen each other, but have personal accounts that collaborate each other.

Where these 3 Masonic Clergymen expose themselves is what they have said that is heretical, what they have said that is obviously mind-control triggers for Illuminati mind-control, and the infidels and heretics that they embrace who are best of friends with them. The financing for these men shows that men like Armand Hammer, William Randolph Hearst, the Rockefellers and numerous others of similar ilk are willing to support them with large donations/and or help. Part of the proof of who Robert Schuller, Billy Graham, and Oral Roberts is seen when one assembles the pieces of the puzzle as to what they are doing. An accumulation of evidence then piles up that is so vast, that it is clear that these men are dirty. Robert Schuller is on the public record as denying all the beliefs of Christianity. He is only a "Christian" if one redefines Christian to be just the opposite of what it used to mean. For anyone who wants to comprehend that Schuller does not teach Christian doctrine, I suggest they simply compare his teachings to the Bible. Billy Graham, Oral Roberts, and Kenneth Copeland are usually more subtle, (but not always). Billy Graham openly said we should embrace the New World Order. Copeland openly said that the Romans had anal sex with Christ. Roberts openly said his fantastic vision, that brought him so much ridicule. The man who "saved" Roberts was not a Christian. The man who Graham says initially told him to become a Christian minister was the head of the Jesuits, Malachi Martin, who I know to be an Illuminati mind-control programmer. There are plenty of off color things about these men, if one has the clear thinking to see the blatant off color facts. But most people think that the world's establishment news will tell them the truth. When Billy Graham is rated the most popular respected man in America for several years, the herd instinct of the sheeple is to idolize the man. Then when this idol of a man tells us Oral Roberts is a great man of God, the sheeple swallow that one too. It all works together, and all these men work together.

I do not think most Christians can think clearly and with critical thinking. I say this because Billy Graham has openly supported Norman Vincent Peale and Robert Schuller. Both of these men preach a gospel of positive thinking, and openly defy the doctrines of the Bible. All three of these men preach ecumenicalism and participate in Ecumenical meetings and ecumenical groups. They are also in favor of a One-World-Religion, which does not teach Christ as the only way of salvation. Because I am centering on Robert Schuller, this article will not go into the fullness of what these other men have done. In light of what I know these men are doing, their reported 33 degree memberships in the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry seem trivial. Peale, Schuller, and Roberts are Illuminati. Graham is used by the Illuminati, and has participated in Luciferian rituals. It is hard to conceive that they would use him so much, (and he knows they use him by the way), if he were not also a member. Since there is a small possibility he is primarily just blackmailed, without being a member, I might entertain a small doubt about whether he is actually a member. Copeland participates in the Illuminati's mind-control over people, and is also I suspect one of their members. These men don't want to taint their Madison avenue images by revealing their Scottish Rite memberships, but they have much darker secrets than their Scottish Rite memberships.

The Double Headed Eagle of the Scottish Rite, 33rd Degree Of Freemasonry (Above) Here we have the symbol for the 33rd Degree of Freemasonry see Scottish Rite link

The picture above, being a statue of the 33rd Degree of Freemasonry's Double Headed Eagle, was actually released by Robert Schuller's own ministry. It was sent to people who pledged $600 or more to his program 'Churches Uniting in Global Mission' and was shown in the Hour of Power News Extra edition. It claimed this program included churches of all denominations and referred to the program as "this networking". I would appreciate getting my hands on a better image of this eagle and also Masonic handshake pictures of Illuminati. Please email to cultbusters@softhome.net with more information. This is the way Masons communicate to others about their membership through symbols and I believe this is what Schuller is doing.

QUOTATIONS BY ROBERT SCHULLER

Compiled by Jim Fox 07-13-92

Note: This file is still being worked on, the Biblical refutations to Robert Schuller's statements are still in the process of being worked on. I would urge any of you who read this file in this preliminary stage to search the Scriptures as the Bereans in Acts 17:11 did.

1. Explains Philippians 2:7,8

"Jesus knew his worth, his success fed his self-esteem.... He suffered the cross to sanctify his self-esteem. And he bore the cross to sanctify your self-esteem. And the cross will sanctify the ego trip!" (Living Positively One Day at a Time, p.201)

2. "A person is in hell when he has lost his self-esteem." (Self-Esteem, The New Reformation, pp.14-15)

3. Obviously he does not accept 1 Timothy 1:15, Luke 5:32 "I don't think anything has been done in the name of Christ that and under the banner of Christianity that has proven more destructive to human personality and, hence, counterproductive to the evangelism enterprise than the often crude, uncouth, and unchristian strategy of attempting to make people aware of their lost and sinful condition." (Time, March 18, 1985)

4. "I discovered the reality of that dynamic dimension in prayer that comes through visualizing..... Don't try to understand it. Just start to enjoy it! It's true. It works. I tried it." (The Fourth Dimension, Foreword)

5. "Now-Believe and You Will Achieve" (Tough Times Never Last, But Tough People DO, p. 161)

6. "You don't know what power you have within you!... You make the world into anything you choose. Yes, you can make your world into whatever you want it to be." (Possibility Thinking: Goals, Amway Corporation cassette tape)

7. "A variety of approaches to meditation...is employed by many different religions as well as by various non-religious mind- control systems. In all forms... TM, Zen Buddhism, or Yoga or... mediation... of

Judaeo-Christian tradition... the meditator endeavors to overcome the distractions of the conscious mind...."

"It is important to remember that meditation in any form is the harnessing, by human means, of God's divine laws.... We are endowed with a great many powers and forces that we do not yet fully understand."

"The most effective mantras employ the "M" sound. You can get the feel of it by repeating the words, "I am, I am," many times over....

Transendental Meditation or TM... is not a religion nor is it necessarily anti-Christian." (Peace of Mind Through Possibility Thinking, pp. 131-32)

8. Robert Schuller was addressing a group of Unity ministers and ministers in training, at the Unity School of Christianity (a Mind-science cult).

Schuller was asked, "Dr. Schuller, we hear a lot of talk these days about the New Age, the Age of Aquarius, the type of New Age thinking that we are involved in with Holistic healing and various other things that are part of what is called the New Age. Will you describe the role of what you might consider the New Age minister in the '80s and beyond?" Schuller replied, "Well, I think it depends upon where you're working. I believe that the responsibility in this Age is to "positivize" religion. Now this probably doesn't have much bearing to you people, being Unity people, you're positive. But I talk a great deal to groups that are not positive... even to what we would call Fundamentalists who deal constantly with words like sin, salvation, repentance, guilt, that sort of thing."

"So when I'm dealing with these people... what we have to do is positivize the words that have classically only had a negative interpretation." (from an address at Unity Village, Unity tape) 9. Schuller declares that this new reformation requires that a new interpretation of the cross is needed.

"The classical interpretation of this teaching of Christ on 'bearing our cross' desperately needs reformation...." "The cross Christ calls us to bear will be offered as a dream... an inspiring idea that would incarnate itself in a form of ministry that helps the self-esteem-impoverished persons to discover their self-worth through salvation and subsequent social service in our Savior's name..."

"So the proclamation of possibility thinking is the positive proclamation of the cross!..."

"Christ was the world's greatest possibility thinker. Do we dare follow him?" (Self-Esteem, pp. 22, 117-19)

10. "If the gospel of Jesus Christ can be proclaimed as a theology of self-esteem, imagine the health this could generate in society!" (Self-Esteem, p. 47)

11. "Are we aware that theology has failed to accommodate and apply proven insights in human behavior as revealed by twentieth- century psychologists?" (Self-Esteem, p. 27)

12. "Self-love is a crowning sense of self-worth. It is an ennobling emotion of self-respect... an abiding faith in yourself. It is sincere belief in yourself."

"It comes through self-discovery, self-discipline, self- forgiveness and self-acceptance. It produces self-reliance, self- confidence and an inner security, calm as the night." (Self-Love, The Dynamic Force of Success, p. 32)

13. Schuller describes a basic defect in modern Christianity. "What is that basic flaw? I believe is it the failure to proclaim the gospel in a way that can satisfy every person's deepest need - one's spiritual hunger for glory. Rather than glorify God's highest creation - the human being - Christian liturgies,, hymns, prayers, and scriptural interpretations have often insensitively and destructively offended the dignity of the person..." (Self-Esteem, p. 31)

14. "Where the sixteenth-century Reformation returned our focus to sacred Scriptures as the only infallible rule for faith and practice, the new reformation will return our focus to the sacred right of every person to self-esteem!" (Self-Esteem, p. 38)

15. "Real self-esteem is real humility. Healthy pride and honest humility are the same human qualities - just different sides of the same coin. We all welcome affirmation and resent being insulted." (Self-Esteem, p. 174)

16. Schuller has decided that pride is this great thing that we all need to strive for. However God lead Israel through the wilderness in order to humble them and break them of their pride (Deut 8:2).

"A neurotic fear of pride has motivated the church too long.... In my lecture to thousands of ordained clergy of the widest cross section of historic Christianity, I have found it necessary to tell my colleagues:" "Dare to be a possibility thinker! Do not fear pride; the easiest job God has is to humble us. God's almost impossible task is to keep us believing every hour of the day how great we are as his sons and daughters on planet earth."

"Don't worry about humility. The easiest job God has to do is to keep you an me humble. God's biggest job is to get us to believe that we are somebody and that we really can do something...."

"Remember, 'If your pride is rooted in your divine call, your humility is assured. The Cross will sanctify your ego trip.'... For the Cross protected our Lord's perfect self-esteem from turning into sinful pride." (Self-Esteem, p. 57, 74)

17. "Are we to believe that self-denial means the denial of personal pleasure, desire, fulfillment, prosperity? For too long religious leaders have suggested this with tragic results...." "Such attitudes are dangerous distortions and destructive mis- interpretations of scattered Bible verses grossly misread by negative-thinking Bible readers who project their own negative self-image onto the pages of Holy Scripture...."

"By self-denial Christ does not mean the rejection of that positive emotion we call self-esteem - the joy of experiencing my self-worth...." (Self-Esteem, p.113-15)

18. Since self-esteem is of all importance with Schuller, he tries to draw the conclusion that an object is worth what the price with which it was bought, in our case since Christ died for us on the cross, we now are of infinite value.

"I must be of infinite value in God's sight" (Self-Esteem, p. 74)

"In his crucifixion, Christ has placed unlimited value on the human soul." (Self-Esteem, p. 102)

19. We now have a new definition of the atonement! "If the deepest curse of sin is what it does to our self-esteem, then the atoning power of the Cross is what it does to redeem our discarded self-worth." (Self-Esteem, p. 101)

20. "I may not deserve it [salvation] but I am worth it so don't say that I am unworthy." (Self-Esteem, p. 74)

21. No one is an unworthy sinner according to Schuller, see Luke 15:21 and Romans 3:23 to see if this is true.

"The most serious sin is the one that causes me to say, 'I am unworthy. I may have no claim to divine sonship if you examine me at my worst.'"

"For once a person believes he is an 'unworthy sinner,' it is doubtful if he can really honestly accept the saving grace God offers in Jesus Christ." (Self-Esteem, p. 98)

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Another famous Masonic preacher is Jesse Jackson, according to a Masonic web site I visited.

[According to Texe Marrs, of Power of Prophecy Ministry, Pat Robertson, who wrote a 1991 New York Times best seller that warned of the New World Order, remains loyal to his father's Judeo-Masonic illuminati ideals.]